? >> michael savage. you hear similar kind of talk from rush limbaugh. >> not similar. you used very specific language. who used that language? >> death panels, all over the place. all over the place. i mean all over the place. seriously. on your station, lou. >> concentration camps? >> they have described them in detail, that order is going to come. >> answer the question. >> and when you see somebody show up -- >> has anyone done what ed shultz said? has anyone done that? this is beyond the pale -- >> i think there are people doing the exact equivalent or the radio, the media equivalent of selling discord and then in effect placing metaphorically a loaded gun on the table and then walking out of the room. >> my god, to even use that meta for. i have to be honest with you, you and i have known each other for a long time. that is a patently ideological -- >> lou, wait. >> chris, i don't -- we don't want to leave chris out of this debate. >> i think what is illustrated here is that -- >> no. the only thing i see here is nobody is talking about health care anymore. we are talking about the mob.